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Episode 51: “Rubber Bullets”
Matt and I start off with some Real Talk; something that doesn’t occur on this podcast often (save for the past couple weeks), but probably should. For our own health, but also yours.
Clearing that, this is going to be one big Netflix show. Now that Warner Bros. has gotten back in bed with Netflix, our Instant Queue’s are smiling again. Batman: Year One and The Dark Knight Returns (Parts 1 & 2) are must-views that are much better adaptations than their Christopher Nolan counterparts.
Then there’s All-Star Superman…which I can’t believe got greenlit except that someone said, “Hey, we got Christina Hendricks to be in it,” thrusting the production forward.
After the break, we grunt like excited chimps over Dredd 3D and other action movies that keep the struggling genre alive. And we don’t even get to the part where Beastman gives Skeletor AIDS!
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V
February 9, 2013 at 6:52 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey guys, I really like your podcasts but if I can give a little advice. Can Sean stop interrupting so much? Your conversations are fun, but I notice a lot of the times Sean ends up interrupting people in the middle of a point. Most times they’re able to just pick up after, but there are some times when it seems like both people are fighting to talk until one of them finally gets the mic. It sounds really jumbled at points because of this.
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
He’s an eager beaver! Also, it’s his podcast, so you can give constructive criticism, but he’s still driving the bus.
Sean Ryan
February 10, 2013 at 5:27 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I am curious about how my co-hosts feel about that. Sometimes editing can make it sound like I (or anyone) is interrupting. But because I know I’m a blowhard, I do consciously try to let the other person go as long as they need. Sometimes, though, if I hear they’re struggling to articulate a point, I’ll jump in.
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 6:06 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Maybe V will come back and respond, but maybe he has issue with you breaking in to ad a joke?
Matthew Kraft
February 12, 2013 at 2:03 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
One problem when podcasting with Sean is the distance and not being able to see each other, so we do not pick up on the queues that the other has a point or is finished speaking. Sean and I go back more than a decade, and while we know each others speaking habits pretty well, distance and visual queues are still going to be a problem. This is not a problem with Kevin, as they are in the same space during the recording.
Another problem is that Sean and I are fast talkers, but I know that I can be very long-winded with my conversation and Sean reels it back in from time to time, which I appreciate. It helps to reset and move on.
Lastly, the editing. In non-live podcasts, Sean does a marvelous job of cutting out background noise and dead air. This speeds up the conversations and makes them feel faster than they normally would be.
VichusSmith
February 12, 2013 at 6:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Maybe you’d need to do a vid skype or something to see if it makes for a better podcast. I don’t know if you actually have a webcam.
Sean does seem to be moving things along at times when he interrupts you.
Sean Ryan
February 12, 2013 at 7:19 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Oh, Jesus, you do not want a webcam of me at home while recording.
VichusSmith
February 13, 2013 at 10:55 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It would be just for you two. I don’t think I really want to see to dudes broing out anyway. Too intimate ;)
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 1:00 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Hey Sean, what’s the true identity of Xorn?
Anyway, Matt, I don’t know how you sounded pre disability, but I don’t hear a difference. Maybe Sean’s editing??
I know a dude who’s a podcaster, and he had SEVERAL mini strokes, and he came back and he sounds incredibly different. When he came back to podcasting, his voice improved slightly, but he still sounds slow and he says that he has breathing issues.
So, from what my ears can tell me, you’re the guy in a movie portraying this other podcaster guy, because you just sound like some dude to me.
Both of you are doing better than Patrice Oneal, so that’s the optimism you can work with.
Matthew Kraft
February 12, 2013 at 1:56 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Perhaps it is something that I am self-conscious about. Back in the early 2003-2007, I never had this problem on podcasts/shoutcasts. I spoke faster, was more on top of the conversation, and quicker with the wit. I listen back to recent podcasts, and I can hear myself struggling to speak, stuttering, or just plain repeating myself often. I can hear the lag in my own thinking, and that sucks.
VichusSmith
February 12, 2013 at 6:36 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I don’t hear it, or- since I wasn’t looking for it- cannot pick up on anything different from normal speech. If there’s a lag in response time, I think you’re the only one who’s noticed it so far.
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 1:07 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“Demon’s Souls did this first” but compared to Journey, the possibility to dick around and grief in Demon’s Souls is higher.
To say Journey did it first is of course wrong, but Journey limited communication to a point where you can’t really be dicked around by co-op partners.
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I recently read an article which was a quick history of the Green Arrow, and it said that Supes did indeed tear Green Arrow’s arm off.
You guys might did Injustice: Gods Among us, or the comic book they’re putting out, because bad shit goes down in sort of the same way that it does in The Dark Knight Returns.
Sean Ryan
February 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
If Superman did rip his arm off, I need somebody to show me where in the video or original comics where that’s pointed out. I’d look in my own copy, but it’s in a box ready for my move.
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I managed to find this.
dkreturns.blogspot.com/2012/04/hiyo-god-damn-silver.html
Matthew Kraft
February 12, 2013 at 2:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Nice find. Also, it is implied through a conversation between Superman and President Regan, the bucking bronco metaphor. Implied during the meadow scene between Clark and Bruce, someday someone with authority is going to ask me to bring you in (paraphrased). It is reaffirmed during Superman’s inner monologue when he is fighting with the Russians, he talks about how people had become scared, and Batman just laughed, “and then there was that trouble with Oliver.” Put all those pieces together, with the panels Vichus posted, and you can assume that Superman was asked to corral the JLA. Batman, while against it, retired, “we threw a party when you retired.” Oliver, on the other hand (hah, pun), did not, and had to be “broken” like a wild bronco.
VichusSmith
February 12, 2013 at 6:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Funny thing about finding that. It’s due to people’s focus on the minutae of fiction that it was possible to show you that.
Geek can be used as a weapon or a tool!
Matthew Kraft
February 13, 2013 at 10:44 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Naw, man. I picked up on it with my first read. It’s even more apparent in the OVA, which I have only watched once. I guess it is left up to interpretation.
VichusSmith
February 13, 2013 at 4:53 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
No, I’m referring to the person who scanned those pages in, who was very into The Dark Knight Returns enough to point out details like this.
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 2:50 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
“One More Day” was not written primarily to reverse the effects of Civil War on Spider-man. It was Joe Quesada’s way to erase Spider-man’s marriage- without them having a good ol’ divorce, I guess. He wanted Peter Parker to go back to a younger status quo, so he pulled that. Straczynski was not completely aboard on it, which comic news sites documented.
I think people might have forgotten that crazy stunt, because now we have Superior Spider-man, which some people are really hating.
I’d also like to address Superman. Sean, you don’t strike me as a great fan of Superman. Yes, Grant Morrison made “All Star Superman” as a love letter to the wacky days of Superman comics, but even without the wacky science, Superman is still a bit dickish and odd. He’s still a gigantic liar , and I think maybe he would be fired if Perry learned that he was Superman. He really should quit, because writing fluff pieces on your alter-ego is the only thing worse than a journalist writing about a politician who is related to him/her.
BTW, I remember you starting this podcast talking about not sweating comic book minutiae, but then you found issue with All Sat Superman. Hmm….
I have ruined this comments section (I should take full responsibility, but this podcast was so up my alley; I blame you), so I leave you with something both you and Matt might be interested in watching.
link to youtu.be
Sean Ryan
February 10, 2013 at 5:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I’m cool with Superman…
I wasn’t sweating minutiae on All Star Superman; I was pointing out that in that one movie that wow, when you think about it, the hero of the stories a creepy asshole. Everything you spewed above was over minutiae. You should chill when people are just goofing around about comics, dude. Fo’ reals…
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
People way smarter and respected than I have written books upon books and dissertations about comic book characters, so I think that as long as I’m not getting emotional or irrational about it, I qualify as “chill.”
Matthew Kraft
February 12, 2013 at 2:24 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I see what Sean is saying. For those people that have written books and dissertations, they are getting paid for their work and contributions. For us, it is a consumable media. Something to be enjoyed and then put down, like all hobbies. When it gets to a level that it consumes you, defines who you are, and you are NOT making a living at it, you become “That Guy.”
VichusSmith
February 12, 2013 at 6:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
There is social currency, though. There is wealth in conversation, even if it’s about stuff that ultimately doesn’t matter.
I have fun learning and teaching absolute fucking trivial garbage; I openly admit my faults.
Matthew Kraft
February 13, 2013 at 10:47 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I completely agree with you, it IS fun in conversation. AC is just that, fun conversation and dicking around. The idea is to make it entertaining, not bog it down with too much fact. It would just get boring that way.
Sean Ryan
February 13, 2013 at 11:00 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It’s like I keep saying… Our motto is “We don’t care what’s fact; we only care what’s funny.”
VichusSmith
February 10, 2013 at 6:54 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
AND ONE MORE THING!
You were asking for recording software. I don’t know if you’re looking to record while streaming or whatever, but I looked around a bit and found that this was recommended
dxtory.com/v2-home-en.html
and of course you know XSplit
I always go to download.com for any software I need first. Also, because finding totally free software is great for my wallet.
Sean Ryan
February 10, 2013 at 7:39 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I usually go there also for software. In fact it’s where I found the most recent one that almost ALMOST works. I’ll give the one you linked a look also.
Tim
February 14, 2013 at 5:13 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Minutae nitpick- this might be something wrong in the original work, but it bugged me regardless- Nebula-stuff isn’t exactly the densest shit in the universe, nor dwarf stars. Could it have been Neutronium?
Also, I was giving you shit re: Ansatsuken, the rest was just a lot of free association feedback.
I still maintain that because people treat blood relations as important, it is. But that’s wholly a product of people giving it that importance, and is sort of a self reinforcing loop. As a whole, no, it shouldn’t be important and it usually gets used amazingly poorly.
And X-men Genetics- like most comic book science- is still massive amounts of bullcrap.
On the topic of Dredd, I liked it, it’s actually a fairly faithful adaptation of an arc of the old comic, and IIRC, the trainee was helmetless in the original too.
Still, I saw it in theaters and got a Bluray copy. I’d love to see more Dredd films or more action films like it.
VichusSmith
February 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
If Marvel science had any basis in reality, everyone would run around looking for radioactive material to touch, so they could get superpowers. :)